This is why we can't have nice things
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References:
The Man in the White Suit - ve42.co/Suit
London, B. (1932). Ending the depression through planned obsolescence. - ve42.co/London32
Slade, G. (2009). Made to break: Technology and obsolescence in America. Harvard University Press - ve42.co/madetobreak
Krajewski, M. (2014). The great lightbulb conspiracy. IEEE spectrum, 51(10), 56-61. - ve42.co/Phoebus
Planet Money, The Phoebus Cartel - ve42.co/PMobs
The Light Bulb Conspiracy - svsoft.info/award/l2_doaBll5yqrmA/video.html
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Written by Derek Muller and Petr Lebedev
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  • SoloPilot6
    SoloPilot6

    My desktop computer was built a year and a half ago -- the monitor that is connected to it is from 2011. My cellphone dates back to 2014. My Toughbook laptop was made in 2007, and still performs the two jobs that I bought it for (navigation and word processing). My newest car was built over a decade ago, my motorcycles were made in 1970 (Honda Trail 90) and 1989 (Goldwing). It also helps to know how to maintain and repair these things (my cars and motorcycles drive as well as new, at a fraction of the price). I don't have to worry about "right to repair," common parts are easily found (new and used -- some of the parts on my sports car came from one just like it that has a twisted frame). Of that whole list, only the desktop computer and phone were purchased new. If not for people believing that they need new stuff (and thus they need to sell the old stuff), I wouldn't have a lot of what I have.

  • Pratik Karande
    Pratik Karande

    This is why usa baned Huawei

  • V Price
    V Price

    Light Emitting Diodes can easily last over 100,000 hours. The bulbs that house LEDs, however, have more components than just the LED. And therein lies the opportunity for the protection of profits. Problem solved.

  • Benwin Thattil
    Benwin Thattil

    Exponential increase in quality videos from Veritasium

  • Saumya Shalu
    Saumya Shalu

    Planned obsolescence is certainly not good for our environment.

  • Harris Pilton
    Harris Pilton

    epic video.. everything's fixable ;)

  • AckzaTV
    AckzaTV

    COMMENTS DISABLED lol How about when the CIA dropped pests animals over central American farms to get rid of a politician they didnt like in the 70s lol I mean agent orange wa sso bad and evil no conspiracy neede.d were gonna come bomb u now u guys think the peopel who carpet bomb arent afraid to also lie cheat and steal for a few decades ? lol theyre ready to bomb innocent civilians for fake wars. we can see them putting chemicals in the water , i mean the put frogs in the water of guetamala to get rid of their crops lol

  • Daniel Fernandez
    Daniel Fernandez

    Wait! As an American, I must stand up for my right to retail therapy. I have somethings that just won't break down. I've got a Whal hair clipper that's over 20 years old, a Sonic toothbrush, a Panasonic microwave and a Panasonic electric shaver that are all over ten years old. This is unAmerican! I'm sick of them and I wish they would die so I could shop for new ones. But how many guys are going to throw out something that still works? I demand built in obsolescence!

  • Standard nnn
    Standard nnn

    I once saw a pair of Sony headphones. They were good headphone costing about $300. I asked how long can you use before the battery needs replacing... " About 3 years", and "u can't change the batteries.." What do I do with them after 3 years??? "Buy a new one" Wtf

  • Standard nnn
    Standard nnn

    Non replaceable batteries and rubberized plastics in our consumer products are prime examples. These things don't last and they force you to buy a new one. I think German carmakers also adopted this idea. A lot of mercedes made in the 1970s can still run today. Today, when you buy a new German car, you will start having problems almost immediately. Few would want to buy a 5 year old used German car.

  • Emote
    Emote

    poor us, we are victims ... of our own ignorance the truth. The world moves thanks to us (consumers), if the products are not very durable it is by our pure and exclusive decision, that we prefer to buy something cheap (low quality materials, workmanship, etc.) instead buy something of good quality and that last longer. Why do I want an eternal computer? With all the advances in software that increasingly ask for more power. My motorola c115 was eternal, what was it going to do for me today with all the progress? (We are talking about some years). I prefer an ever-changing world where new cars basically drive themselves, to a static world where I would have to work like a dog aiming to buy the eternal Ford that was shown in the video ... thanks but no, if I want that I can go to Cuba (and I am very sorry for those who suffer in that country). The interesting thing about all this is that our dear Derek in the video gives a point of view, what he says is not an undeniable reality, but in the comments it is incredible how they take it as absolute truth, nobody questions why we live as we live ... I love veritasium videos but lately it points a lot to this type content of wash mind, without marking the different positions on it. Success to all

  • Shadab Khan
    Shadab Khan

    I always use to think of these conspiracies in my mind now im clear with obsolescence

  • PK-JIN
    PK-JIN

    It's a very niche industry, but the same troubling trend has manifested itself in the general aviation avionics (radios & instruments) industry. 20-30 years ago most of the aircraft radios and instruments were field repairable - i.e. your local radio shop could use relatively generic components like capacitors and IC chips to repair them. Service bulletins were issued to such shops so that they could perform modifications & upgrades as well. In the 2000s BendixKing (subsidiary of Honeywell) effectively revoked the rights of thousands of such repair shops around the world to perform these repairs, and instructed them to destroy all copies of maintenance/service documentation which, for most shops, amounted to entire bookshelves at that point. (Of course, most shops outright turned in their dealership status and outright refused to destroy these documents, and good on them). Thankfully, BendixKing since then has fallen from its previous status as the de-facto industry leader in general aviation avionics, and has been on a road of steady atrophy, amounting to nothing more than a shell of their former status. That said, the current leader in this industry, Garmin, is unfortunately undergoing the same story, wherein their avionics products from the 90s and early 2000s were easily field-serviceable and well-documented, but today their avionics are purposely designed to last no more than 5-7 years, their hardware/software architecture is intentionally obfuscated to deter other companies from attempting 3rd-party integration compatibility, and factory-repair fees are artificially raised to financially unviable levels to force users to "upgrade" to newer equipment. Most egregiously, some of their FAA-legal documentation (for those in the industry - STC permission letters) were retroactively amended to preclude "owners and qualified technicians/repair stations" - which were previously authorized to carry out installations - from installing some of Garmin's older equipment and to limit new installations to "authorized dealers" only, effectively stripping practical reuse of older products that could have been transferred in the used market to an aircraft owner who desires older (and perfectly functional) equipment for a fraction of the cost of a new one. When I asked of the true rationale behind this action to Michael Kerrigan, Garmin regional sales representative for the Eastern US, I was met with a very hostile response that boiled down to "keep your mouth shut or your dealership will be in jeopardy."

  • Yellow Belle
    Yellow Belle

    This is why I don't buy iPhones

  • Jake Lambuth
    Jake Lambuth

    Apple iphone engineers: pfft.....amateurs

  • Andrew Shevchenko
    Andrew Shevchenko

    haha jokes on you. LED bulbs run at double the current they should making them hot and die sooner. check out philips dubai lamp for more

  • Ari Okubo
    Ari Okubo

    cApItAlIsM lEaDs To InOvAtIoN

  • iloveuniverseforeverandalways
    iloveuniverseforeverandalways

    well i predict we can use forever lasting things on earth but its like 50/50 we can use things that can last forever and some things wont so ya but if so go outer space and start living in a spaceship which will be so advanced in the future there wont be money needed or food to eat or water to drink or oxygen to breathe well i dont have have any proof of that but anyways i dont need to prove you its just for me thank you and good luck

  • Axel Daguerre
    Axel Daguerre

    good as always except for the 3 advertising ;)

  • phantom walker
    phantom walker

    arnt farmers planned obsolecence people. ?.

  • phantom walker
    phantom walker

    companies get,pay,people to test how long products last,then adjust them,,, does anything chinese last.......

    • fouoii gyhh
      fouoii gyhh

      so, capitalism made our lights shitty marxism intesifies

  • phantom walker
    phantom walker

    EVER HEARD OF TESLA. FREE ENERGY. NOT HAPPENING.

    • fouoii gyhh
      fouoii gyhh

      changing fashion of progress, and sometimes, regress (wars, natural disasters and such who deletes a lot of knowledge and advanced things). peace out.

  • kaylor87
    kaylor87

    As time goes on, and things like the right to repair become law, why wouldn't manufacturers just purposely design their products to be modular, and easily upgradable, so that they can continue to sell upgrades to their customers rather than trash the entire thing.

  • Brad Buckner
    Brad Buckner

    Very good! Keep it going.

  • Gaurav Patel
    Gaurav Patel

    This is an amazing channel!!!!

  • George Henry Moore
    George Henry Moore

    QI XL 011 - Objects and Ornaments, is that where you got it from?

  • trent wolfgram
    trent wolfgram

    The conspiracy is just capitalism dude. Like, c'mon. It's the same story with fruit companies. And mining companies. And oil companies. Etc..

  • NoLeads Ent.
    NoLeads Ent.

    typical tyrant meeting to monopolize and steal the public money.

  • Reapermask
    Reapermask

    nice vid

  • Nahid Bepari
    Nahid Bepari

    The problem isn't with products that lasts forever, the problem is in how geopolitics effects trade etc... In these day and age without money you can't even get food, and so you have to work for money to get your food, and the story gose a long way, I am kinda starting to think that we are being fed unhealthy food so doctors will have their business going 🙄.

  • Fernando Luiz
    Fernando Luiz

    spectacular !!!

  • Zach Islam
    Zach Islam

    Once that light bulb goes out, the world is fucked

  • Luc-Angelo Sean Nepomuceno
    Luc-Angelo Sean Nepomuceno

    Another worth watching knowledge..

  • maybekaitlin !
    maybekaitlin !

    “ah yes unemployment is a problem let’s make the government destroy things”...... WHY IS UNEMPLOYMENT A PROBLEM???? if we’re destroying anything it needs to be this horrid system

  • Wes B
    Wes B

    Excellent!!!

  • MarceloACR
    MarceloACR

    Great video, extremely meaningful and helped me open my eyes and mind to a LOT of things (or at least broaden already opened eyes). BUT, one serious critic - you categorize progress as an essencially mechanical-technological thing. Explicitly, even, when talking about the spans attained by apple and idealized by some car company i don't exactly recall (ford, perhaps?). Progress, advancement, improvement or whatever you may call them, albeit there are differences in specific meanings in words, they are infinitely variable in expression. If this one new cellphone has a back that creates beauty in an actually more elegant, different, new, innovative or whatever combination of words such as these, they, by definition, ARE an improvement, they do attract more, because they essentially end up being more. And sure there are recyclings of style and whatnot amongst eras. It's a fallacy, however, to think such a thing as lazy or effortless. They end up happening more based on an eruption from the current age (whatever it must be) that is somewhat extremely similar to whichever other culture and age. It's like the phenomena where pyramids in several different parts of the world became built by unconnected civilizations. Some things flow to a common point based on biological behaviour connected to the (limiting and conditioning) external world, and thus things arise, but ever in a changing fashion of progress, and sometimes, regress (wars, natural disasters and such who deletes a lot of knowledge and advanced things). peace out.

  • pascoe
    pascoe

    so, capitalism made our lights shitty *marxism intesifies*

  • Alistair Lumb
    Alistair Lumb

    Very good most enjoyable

  • shperax
    shperax

    How do you make people pay fines made from no real laws

  • Zac Shook
    Zac Shook

    Wow.

  • Brunno Cavalcanti
    Brunno Cavalcanti

    This channel is godlike.

  • Clarence Ewing
    Clarence Ewing

    The Free Market at work.

  • Carlos Martínez
    Carlos Martínez

    No hay ni un comentario es español alv😭😭😭

  • Kala Goyal
    Kala Goyal

    "Capitalism breeds innovation" The innovation: planned obsolescence

  • Keaqa n
    Keaqa n

    It’s sad that today, we feel an urge to buy what we don’t need out of fear we’ll be punished if we don’t.

  • Keaqa n
    Keaqa n

    This video was amazing. Keep up the good work, you’re awesome

  • Brandon Zachman
    Brandon Zachman

    My LEDs die all the time. Obsolescence is still going strong.

  • Christian Clements
    Christian Clements

    Exactly protecting the battery, this is important. I Remember having an early generation iPhone instead of slowing down the screen would just go black because the battery could not keep up

  • Christian Clements
    Christian Clements

    Your argument has a massive hole concerning available and feasible battery technology of the time was not up to par with standards you can imagine today. Concerning the old iPod

  • Shadow51
    Shadow51

    That's why I hate Apple. The "i" in iPhone stands for inferior. SWITCH TO SAMSUNG

  • Morten frost Hansen
    Morten frost Hansen

    The clothing business has taken this tactic to the max... they put of new lines of clothes every 3-4 month

  • Morten frost Hansen
    Morten frost Hansen

    Because of shortage of paint, before Henry Ford bought up cheap surplus paint from the army, you could have a number of colours

  • The Badger Den
    The Badger Den

    This isn't just lightbulbs either, it's most things-particularly motor vehicles. They could easily make an affordable car that can go over a million miles, but then they'd stop selling cars. Laptops, phones, batteries, televisions, routers, literally everything is designed to break so you have to buy more.

  • Jack Aguirre
    Jack Aguirre

    God damn humanity.

  • Sourish Saha
    Sourish Saha

    I won't be surprised if this video gets taken down

  • Sourish Saha
    Sourish Saha

    We are living in a social media driven world where everyone acts like they have to have things better than your friends. People act with their phone like it's a trophy not a communication device. I have been using the same phone for just under 4yrs. My friends replace theirs every year and some of them told me to change the phone. But mine is perfectly fine and would change only when it's actually obsolete. It's actually the smarter and cost effective way

  • Sourish Saha
    Sourish Saha

    this is exactly what Apple did with their product and got away with it. Now 90% teens use Iphone despite knowing it. Either they're too stupid or have access to too much money the didn't deserve.

  • Sourish Saha
    Sourish Saha

    We are living in a gig Economy. Capitalism turned into Corporatocracy. People having 10$ coffee, 25$ burger and 100$ steak, 10k vacations, 45k car and 500k house all with credit cards bcz they earn 40k pre tax yearly. Bcz we have been programmed by social media into this kind of lifestyle. We should differentiate the necessity vs luxury and prefer independence over unnecessary luxury

  • Amaterasu Susanoo
    Amaterasu Susanoo

    Is the LED light bublb essentially last forever so the company has to control its life span by planned obsolescence ? Technically, if you just have a good cooling system like e.g. Dyson desklamp, the LED will last very very long.

  • camaro man
    camaro man

    Everything in the world is made to break they spend millions of dollars in testing that their product breaks at a certain point which is usually just after the warranty expires

  • TheGreatArloMan
    TheGreatArloMan

    No idea what this video was about but at 0:10 it dawned on me "Planned Obsolescence"

  • Andrew Pierce
    Andrew Pierce

    Another example of capitalism stalling innovation and progress.

  • Satan
    Satan

    so basically capitalism and the never ending hunger for profit is why we cant have nice things

  • XblacksocksX
    XblacksocksX

    20 years later and I finally know why I shouldn't be flicking the light switch

  • Tiffany Holmes
    Tiffany Holmes

    Wonderful. This all explains why we're all walking on a planet of garbage.

  • Baterodalo
    Baterodalo

    If humans stop caring about $ and power we would have so much more knowledge, take the spanish empire for ex

  • M L
    M L

    Planned obsolescence is not required where improvements are valued. People will always want the next best thing. So purposely gimping your product is purely dishonest.

  • gecorp gecorp
    gecorp gecorp

    anatomy of a headshot

  • TheFlambeau
    TheFlambeau

    Aliens have no comment

  • Matthew Horrocks
    Matthew Horrocks

    I remember chatting with a man who worked for Gillet and he was part of a team working on the blades in the Mach 3 razor so that they would last exactly 3 shaves. Interesting how he explained that it should work and feel just as well for the first three shaves but be irritable and obviously worn for the 3rd.

  • Gagan Kumar
    Gagan Kumar

    I have purchased multiple LED light bulbs from Philips, many of them just died after few months.

  • Derek White
    Derek White

    So basically built in obsolescence keeps consumerism alive Consumerism literally kills human evolution....... It all makes since now

  • Ashnikko
    Ashnikko

    lmfao why does the title remind me of Taylor swift-

  • MauM / Mauro Miceli Consigli - Vivamos Mejor
    MauM / Mauro Miceli Consigli - Vivamos Mejor

    Let them do percieved obselesence. That's on us. But I wish we get rid of technical planned obsolescence for good.

  • Rice Cube
    Rice Cube

    who cares about Kelvin lol talk in Celsius mate

  • l1mbo
    l1mbo

    But you didn't really address the concern of workers losing their jobs? Just ended with an empty declaration that we should only support technological obsolescence. Who is to say that in every sector technological obsolescence will be fast enough to ensure jobs stay, and will continue to be in the future? How would automation affect this?

  • Richard Lopez
    Richard Lopez

    Goose and Ganders agree: You can light one just holding twixt your buttcheeks.

  • Djuntas
    Djuntas

    People just need to be better at using things until they break. Im sure many do, but its still the best we can do...

  • adam blaedow
    adam blaedow

    LEDS such tgey don't last

  • Terry Thompson
    Terry Thompson

    None of this would be a problem if it didn't threaten the survival and independence of people. Scientists if they really wanted to could engineer food production and such that people wouldn't need to do unnecessary labor to exist. They choose not to.. because the financiers and shareholders of stock do not want that. People can still have purpose.. they just need not pursue it doing mindless boring jobs.

  • Zaid Lacksalastname
    Zaid Lacksalastname

    Personally, I think silencing skeptical people is harmful, it doesn't matter how batshit crazy their theories are, stamping them out makes people mord likely to accept actual issues as "just life"

  • George Reynolds
    George Reynolds

    Conspiracies and cartels are often invoked to explain similar behaviour on the part of rival businesses. However, the economic theory of "oligopoly" has an alternative explanation which doesn't require any nefarious activity at all. Three service stations are competing in a small town. The prices are visible to all and one of them decides to increase prices. The others will watch to see if business decreases or stays the same. If they see that the rival is still doing the same business at a higher profit margin, then they will follow suit and increases their prices as well. Likewise, if one lowers prices and seems to be doing better, the others will follow suit. No need for clandestine meetings or skulduggery! It means that the market is not competitive, but rather based on "signalling". How to recognize oligopoly? - look at the advertisements - they will always have claims of better products or services. Monopoly and competitive markets hardly need advertisements at all.

  • Llia Olsen
    Llia Olsen

    Interesting. We are consumers, so the things we buy should by nature be consumable in some fashion. Most likely consumed by age/time. The things that degrade in value the least or go up tend to last a lot longer by design and or by maintenance. Property, Houses, classic cars. Where does art fit in? Pictures, Film, Music... I own multiple copies of my favorite media on different formats. All the companies need do is rerelease them. Though usually following releases add value with extra content. The most expensive art becomes subscription based... we pay to see them in person and don't get to own the actual copy. 😅

  • Javi Martinez
    Javi Martinez

    How is that even legal?

  • Harsha Adithya
    Harsha Adithya

    Thank you so much for making this video You can't imagine what you have just started

  • Vijay Kumar
    Vijay Kumar

    Awesome information

  • Teemo
    Teemo

    I've had to replace at least 3 LED bulbs in my house over the past few years, one of which barely lasted 200 hours. the LED element itself may have an incredibly long lifespan, but the shitty electronics in some of the cheaper bulbs still die on a regular basis.

  • Teemo
    Teemo

    8:54 could you imagine if the government went around taking peoples appliances and forcing them buy new ones when they got too old?

  • alcldes
    alcldes

    1:32 demand would dry out when houses would stop being built. any new building would for sure use those lights, & they’re still breakable. maybe thats j me though

  • Rabih Badr
    Rabih Badr

    It's called Cartel for a reason.

  • Thought Stricken
    Thought Stricken

    Prediction: In 5 years LED bulbs will be half as lasting and at least 25% less efficient.

  • GTX 1050Ti Gameplays
    GTX 1050Ti Gameplays

    Money is the root of all evil.

    • Knight Trooper
      Knight Trooper

      I will rather have my 1 million earned in 5-10 years than receiving it from a lottery...

  • FearGFX
    FearGFX

    Lots of products have a built-in obsolescence. It's all part of the planet destroying, disposable culture.

  • Lithium
    Lithium

    I'm still shocked it was only recently discovered that everyone's PS4 is going to be useless in the next decade. Apparently if the CMOS battery inside dies, the console can no longer play any games. Physical or digital.

    • Knight Trooper
      Knight Trooper

      I am beyond furious even if I never had a PS4 I only had a PS3... but still I'm still mad... PS4 won't be functional to be remembered... I never knew about that...

  • FixItInPost
    FixItInPost

    Durable goods that last decades are not good for business.

  • IndeRPG
    IndeRPG

    5 year average car ownership of a car...*looks outside at my 2001 Corolla" Hmmmm....Nah shes got another 20 years in her!

  • Lucas Johnson
    Lucas Johnson

    This is the subscription model

  • Adaptive Blur
    Adaptive Blur

    Thank for this.

  • Dino B.
    Dino B.

    LED lights are the worse lights ever invented. The best light bulbs for human eyes (and health in general) are incandescent bulbs. - and they forbid them "for you own safety".

  • BBOY ASIST
    BBOY ASIST

    Greed is such a shitty human trait.

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